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Is ignorance and rejection of the science behind the Theory of Evolution really a bad thing?

Disclaimer: I'm an agnostic who believes in Evolution. Really, friends, is it really such a bad thing if people who are religious don't believe in the Theory of Evolution? Since it is the truth, of how the human species came about, from an earlier non human species, it doesn't need to be pushed, anyone who has any intellectual curiousity will stumble on it and believe it to be an explanation for the Origin of the Species. There is a reason Christians knock on doors handing out their literature, trying to recruit a membership. Evolution does not require a membership. The sad reality is that "this is a Christian nation"; and having been a Christian nation since 1776 they have not eliminated poverty, but neither has science. Praying to Jesus hasn't cured any diseases, science has done that, so what if some Christian wants to credit Jesus for giving the scientist the know how. I'd ask simply what of prayeres to other gods for cures? And that will go unanswered honestly.

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Yeah, that's a good point, but a lot of religeous types will try and trick you and say that Evolution itself is a religion. It's a toughy all right.
It isn't so much the rejection of Evolution that's bad, as it is the attempt to push nonsense like Intelligent Design into public schools. Even the president thinks it's appropriate to "teach the controversy". Religious beliefs are rarely benign to the rest of us.
A tremendous pyramid of evidence for design and recent creation is available for detailed study. Romans 1:20 states: "For the invisible things of him from the creation are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead: so that they are without excuse." Scientific evidence for creation abounds in areas of objective observation. Scholars in various scientific disciplines have written about the incredible complexity in living systems and the structure of the universe. This complexity is beyond the possibility of natural development. All the evidence Evolution has And I will say it again and again and again. IT IS FABRICATED, ACCEPT IT!!!!!!
To believe evolution discredits our divine God.
I believe in Evolution but I don't care if anyone else chooses to do so. What others do is no business of mine. Self-realization is the best way to discover things anyways.. when you do it for yourself you have a deeper belief than when someone pushes it to you. Well, you know I don't pray. I feel even if deities exist why should they constantly pulling us out of our troubles? We have intelligence we don't need to rely on them when we are more than capable of fixing things for ourselves.
I don't understand why it's so difficult to be religious/spiritual and believe in evolution. Of course, it requires the ability to read the Bible/Koran/Torah/etc conceptually and in the context of the time written. Lol, that's why agnosticism makes so much sense.
hey there's something either call it god or destiny or karma or whatever....of course evolution seems logical but christians don't say that it's not possible that God didn't create earth but started with the Big Bang or what you'd liek to call it
I'm Christian: My problem with evolution is that it is "evolving"..the theory itself is changing constantly...from it being "forced" on us in High School then in college the theory is constantly evolving...the theory changes nearly over night. The other problem is that some don't want the 10 commandments in court houses or schools because they say it forces beliefs down their throats....OKAY..I feel the theory of evolution is FORCED down my children's & MY throat...but that seems to be OKAY..where is the outrage there...nothing! As a Christian I have many secular idea shoved down my throat...but I notice the liberals could care less
The idea that life evolved as evolutionists claim should be the laughable position, but some Creationists' insistence that Earth and Man came on the scene together have the evolutionists laughing at us instead. As to how to answer the questions of scoffers, I would say that neither Scientists nor Theologians have all the answers to questions about our origins. But the issue confronting us is not about our origin. It's about our destiny and the alternatives are clear. It's either believe God or don't. Since we won't know from experience that we made the right choice until it's too late, believing God is the only logical thing to do. If believing Him is wrong, we'll simply get the destiny that was always intended for us, no harm, no foul. But if we're right, we'll be blessed beyond measure. However for unbelievers it's just the opposite. If they're right, they'll just get the destiny always intended for them, but if they're wrong they'll burn in Hell forever. It's a no-brainer.
As a follower of Jesus Christ, I reject all false teaching. Your looking for easy answers, not truth.
That's a good point. I've been arguing on the grounds that it's unacceptable for other people to have their heads so far up their arses that they can taste last week's dinner... but I guess it doesn't really matter. There's the school board issue, of course - I find it kind of offensive that someone would try to instruct children that the universe was created in 7 literal days, and pass it off as genuine science. It isn't so much that I'm afraid the kids would believe that instead of the alternative; I'm worried that future generations will think science itself is a load of hogwash, if it includes something as silly as Intelligent Design "theory".
The rejection of Evolution by individuals is nothing more than a personal choice, no matter how misguided it is. The issue does not present a problem until another "theory", one with absolutely no scientific basis, is presented and interjected into the classroom. Teaching Creationism as fact is teaching MYTH. Contrary to popular supposition This is NOT a "Christian Nation", it is a nation of many faiths and beliefs. The Constitution is written to protect the Minority from the Tyrrany of the majority.
im a christian but i do know about evolution and there is a lot about creation that confuses me. theres a lot about evolution that confuses me. but i can see how evolution makes more sence than creation. for the simple reason that there is sience and physical evedince that can show how we evolved from other creatures. where those creatures came from is another question though. there is so much that was left for imagination i do believe. not everything was meant to have an answer.
God has given us a map of the soul. He only ask for the will of of your conscience if you do not understand what is required of you just mealier ask yourself and the answer will be reveled. Knowing right from wrong. he is not a tiernt
U see...as a muslim we believe science is good. God give us the inteligence and it is our duty to make questions and try to understand this universe. The thing about this particular theory is that it encourages racism and discrimination. And it also forgets that there are also "love" factors helping species to survive. Think of ur mam taking care of u...think of lions taking care of them selves and so on...u will find that evolution also happens thanks to solidarity and love...this is why we dont accept some points of what Darwin says... Still, we believe we human beings, didnt look they way we do since the beginning of course...we have changed becoz of evolution ; )
You seem to equate Christianity with ignorance. A little slanted, wouldn't you say? Where do you find your truth, on TV, in the media? It's too bad people believe everything they hear without investigation. You have not been to my church and witnessed the healings; the very idea seems repugnant to you. I have been where you are. I was raised in church but bailed because of the control and lies. I went thru two degrees at several colleges and universities before settling on engineering, but always trying to find the truth. The math was about the only truth I could find that held across all cultures, situations, and accross millennia. I've investigated and studied Evolution thoroughly, but I doubt very much that you have. You freind, are more than likely the ignorant one, Have you ever seen a divine truth in a magazine? If so, rarely. In newspapers, almost non-existent. And television—never—unless it is some learning channel. And even there, how can a “Theory” of Evolution be taken as fact so easily, when this treatise involved in biology asserts no proof, or even a well-defined premise, that man evolved from apes? Even if the truth we are seeking were revealed, people believe that because they comprehend, they conclude that they have successfully taken in the material and reached a proper conclusion. Permanent incorporation requires repeated exposures and answering difficult questions. We can eliminate this major misconception or false expectation with the evidence of psychological research and the Ebbinghaus Curve of Forgetting. Still yet, we must distinguish between “knowing” and having information. “Knowing” is having direct experience of reality, while “being informed,” is having definitions, descriptions, names and narratives. Knowing vs. being informed are direct antagonists of each other. Knowing is a process that begins in the visual processing of the right side of the brain and culminates in the unification of reality and the two brain hemispheres, while becoming informed takes place in the left side of the brain and culminates in the total separation of reality and the two hemispheres of the brain. The left side of the brain breaks up the world into finite components and time sequences, and the other, the right side of the brain, focuses on the unity of things in the world. The left hemisphere is the intellectual, syllogistic logical faculty that we measure through IQ tests, which excels in communicating finite concrete ideas, in addition to the definitions and descriptions that makes up the technological processes (chemistry, mathematics). But not everything in the world fits neatly into definitions, descriptions and linear logic. Therein lies the problem with predominantly left-brained people, and Western civilization in general, who try to use this faculty to communicate all realities. This problem is compounded by the ingrained belief of most people that information is knowledge. And worse when we try to understand ourselves. “Know thyself,” they say. But what is real? What is the truth? Most people describe themselves with their habitual pattern of thought and emotional responses to events. And too, most people identify themselves as the thought generator (their minds) and its contents (their beliefs). This misunderstanding is responsible for the impossibility to “Know thyself. We are also taught that “will” is a separate entity, but it is not, neither separate nor an entity. Consciousness and the will are opposite polarities (passive and active) of the same function. They are not really separate. They are two parts of the same thing, so I shall heretofore refer to them as “consciousness/will,” or simply “C/W.” As two parts of the same thing, they act in concert together. But the will also exists apart from the functions it sanctions, initiates, selects, controls, or suppresses. We have verbal and graphic thoughts, but we also have a “thought generator, that throws thoughts into the sphere of consciousness, but functions outside and independent of the will. This is the mind. We also have feelings, emotions and sensations, but also a “feelings generator” (incorrectly labeled as our soul). The generator of thoughts, emotions, and sensations is one and the same. But we have no perception of its existence and activity. Something (this thing) is working outside our sphere of consciousness that is guiding our physiological, mental, sensual, and emotional functions. This hidden, subconscious, or unconscious agent is called the spirit, the psyche, or soul. The consciousness/will, or C/W, are the indicators of ourselves. If I assign them to the essence of our being, then I am defining our Selves as functions instead of entities. It becomes clear then, that these faculties within us are really the essential expressions of who we are, made by God to serve a function in the world. Without God in the picture, we are reduced to nothing—a lost and helplessly drifting vessel. We are that which perceives the mental and physical worlds, but is imperceptible itself; that which “will” changes, but cannot (or will not) be willed or influenced to change. We are not aware of it, but C/W is the means through which we are aware of and dominate the world—inner (mental) and outer. The spirit is the generator of our thoughts and emotions and sensations, as well as the functional agent behind our physiological functions (heartbeat, respiratory, blood flow, etc.); these are the forms and force--- through which our living is conducted, but is not who we are, even though we mistakenly think so. The spirit (unconsciousness) is the storehouse of knowledge, but devoid of consciousness, is incapable of knowing this knowledge. Neither can it know itself or anything, even though it stores the knowledge of the universe. And herein is the crux of the problem. The consciousness/will can know, but has no storehouse of information. The C/W can initiate changes in the spirit, but lacks the power to carry them out. It can know itself and can identify with the not-self. The spirit cannot initiate changes in its activities, but it is receptive to change from influences proceeding from the will, suggestions and stimuli from the environment, provided it is exposed to these at the right time or in the proper manner. The underlying causes of our problems in the world, then, is lack of knowledge of Self, and acting with lack of truth or knowledge. We identify with the modalities of the unconscious, the spirit, instead of the conscious will. The consciousness/will can decide which thoughts, feelings, and actions will be acceptable, but cannot generate thoughts and feelings, and lacks the power to carry out the acts it indicates to take place. On the other hand, the spirit has the power to generate thoughts, feelings and actions, but cannot direct these. One of them knows and directs, but is uninformed, while the other is incapable of knowing and directing, yet it is the power "to do" in the world. Power is not an attribute of the will. The concept of interpreting the inability to act as desired, as weakness of the will, is erroneous. Nothing is wrong with the driver, if the car breaks down. Without some Divine hand or purpose connecting the C/W and the spirit, we can't know anything, are totally lost, and can't possibly act correctly. The car has no driver; it is empty. Do you begin to see the Divine Plan? Without God guiding our spirit, we are designed to be lost. Why did God go to all of this trouble, creating us in His own image, if this were not so? But it is difficult to reason with "ignorant Christians" with irrational beliefs, or is it so different with real and normal people? I have studied the Tao, the Quran, the Upanishads, anecdotes and parables mostly, but a lot of human understanding also. How about this one, “As long as you derive inner help and comfort from anything, keep it” (Mahatma Gandhi). Does that apply to kleptomaniacs and sex offenders? You may well ask, where did I, or where do I find truth? There is no question, no opinionated belief without fact that most "normal" people rely on. I can give you many reasons, but I will concentrate on two that stand out as to why the Holy Bible, my Bible, is the real deal; the Word of God. It is the responsibility of each of us, after a certain age, to find the truth. The common thread of almost all religions except one, is man seeking God. By contrast, Christianity and the Holy Bible is about God seeking man. The Holy Bible is the only book that prophecied the coming of Jesus Christ, several hundred years before he was born. It told where he would be born, where he would grow up, that he would flee Egypt, the entire story ahead of time. This is only one of hundreds of prophecies that have come true down to every detail. There is no question that these are the writings of God Himself, through the Holy Spirit in man. This is getting lengthy, and I won't bore you much longer with this finatical reasoning, but I will give you one more reason that proves the validity of the Holy Bible in one word: "Israel." It was prophesied in the Old Testament, hundreds of years before the birth of Christ that Israel would be destroyed, and their citizens scattered about the face of the earth. The Romans fulfilled that prophecy in about 40 AD. There was no more Israel for almost 2,000 years. It was also prophesied that Israel would be rebuilt, and it’s people return, and further that this would mark the beginning of the End Times. At the end of World War II, the British partitioned Israel into Arab and Jewish states, which was rejected by the Arabs. Around 1948, Israel was surrounded on three sides by the armies of three different Arab countries; outnumbered 10 to 1, and the Russians had pumped up the Arabs with superior fighter jets, artillery, and the usual weapons of warfare. There was no hope for Israel, all was surely lost. So what did they do? They attacked! In one day, they wiped out the entire fleet of the enemy aircraft while it sat on the ground. Israel won the war against all odds. Israel was a very unpopular subject, even in the 1960’s, but by some incredible and miraculous intervention, Israel was declared a nation by the U.N., and reborn. In all of history, name one other nation that has been taken or destroyed, and come back into existence 2,000 years later (or at any later time) with the same government, the same culture, the same people (or descendants thereof), and the same religion as the Jews. Miraculous? Indeed, foretold. Prophesied by God. No man could possibly prophesy in such great detail, with such accuracy. No Tao or Koran or any other Bible stands up to such scrutiny, to such revelation, to such scouring truth as the Holy Bible. It is full of such prophesies, and it is full of such truth, that you cannot possibly find so much truth anywhere else. As usual, as with gov’t and other things, it does not require much faith of our own when you know the origin, the details, and have knowledge of the subject. Faith comes through knowledge of the Bible. The answers are there, for anything and everything truly worthwhile that you seek. Please read the article titled "Essay" and the other titled "Finding Truth" at the below referenced link.
science=SATAAAN! we SIMPLE christians fear science! you will burn in hell jim darwin!
When you said: "I believe in Evolution" it sounds like the same statement as "I believe in God", so....is it your religion? Also....are you believing in Evolution because of what your school textbooks say and school textbooks are never wrong? Have you even really investigated the "theory"? or do you just go by what your brain has decided to believe. Even Darwin admitted that there aren't any transitional species, and that's what would be needed to PROVE his theory. As far as science curing diseases....in the old testament, God told the Israelites how to wash before preparing meat...and to quarantine people with certain sores on their body.....do you suppose maybe the scientists had to look in the Bible to get some idea on how come the Israelites didn't die of diseases? and maybe use some of those practices to "discover" germs? Do you suppose Christopher Columbus believed the Bible that the earth was round instead of believing the SCIENTISTS at the time that the earth was flat? Did you know that all the big ships built today were originally designed after the same design as the ark? disclaimer: I'm a Bible believing scientist that "believed in evolution" 10 years ago....it makes no sense to me now.
are you giving us what you think (meaning- what you're conjured up in your own mind to be fact) or what you know ( meaning- what you have found out to be true, by reading history, gathering data, doing research, seeking information from other scholars, etc.) because both sides have a story to tell and just because you decided to pick the side of evolution, doesn't mean that every one who studies evolution will naturally,(like you did) believe it. after all isn't that why God gave us a mind, to think for ourselves.
There is nothing wrond with people choosing to not believe in the theory of evolution. It **IS** wrong if people attack the theory with claims that are completely false (e.g., "man didn't come from monkeys" "The 2nd las of thermodynamics" "probability makes evolution impossible"). Such statements have been discredited and can be proven false, yet we see and hear them every day. It also ***IS*** wrong if people are attempting to silence valid scientific theories because they don't agree with their religion or politics.
Evolution is not reality. Neither is knocking on people's doors trying to get yourself into heaven. Religion is just as far off the mark as Evolution is. Read the Bible. Believe what it tells you. If you don't understand it, ask God to help you. Your reading it will be much more effective and make it much easier for you to understand when you ask Jesus to come into your heart. I can't imagine reading it without the help of the Holy Spirit. This is not religion, this is a relationship with the living God who created all things. Are there some things that you have to accept on faith (or put on a shelf until you find the explanation)? Yes. That's part of the journey. But YOU CAN understand what it is saying without making up excuses for it. Evolution is hogwash. And what's worse about it is that there is no peace or love or hope in it. Religion is about trying to make yourself feel better, and usually involves you being engaged in a lot of fruitless work. In religion you have to subject yourself to a system of do's and don'ts. In a relationship with God through His Son Jesus Christ, He gives you what you need in your heart to live a blessed and successful life. Hope that helps.
Where is Science in Evolution dude.. Have you read the evolution theory with a Scietistific mentality .. ie questioning for experimental proof of every statement? Its simply imagination, one species evolving into other .. with all the missing links.. You have a dumb monkey ... and missing links and then suddendly you have A very evolved Human... ofcourse you show him naked to show him less evolved .. You get a some Jaw bone or even a tooth and you start imagining a Missing Link man ... what could be more further than science or Truth ? Evolution theory is another theory, and a Human attempt to some how understand Creation.. But it is not proved at all. So scientists are trying. why do you jump and say its a Fact and no more Scientific attempts are required ? This Blind faith in evolution theory is actually hindering Scientific community in doing actual research.. Darwin time is gone. Judging the state of Science at his time you can simply say that his knowledge was merely the state of Ignorance... Just see that he considered atoms to be just mixture of some chemicals.. He also considered Woman to be less evolved than Man. With advancement of Genetics we come to know so much more on about different species and even our body...but very few are even trying to find other alternatives with the fear of facing the warth of the scientific community themself.... Why have we made science so crippled ?
"what of prayeres(sic)to other gods for cures?" well, when you pray to any god other than God Almighty Himself,you would do just as good to pray to your dog. same result.
Ignorance is bliss, so it is a good thing (said tongue in cheek). And when you know about your ignorance, it is a first step toward correcting it - just too bad so many persist in their antiquated beliefs!